Seems a bit quiet in here...

[nospoon]

Could it have something to do with this guy called Barack Obama on every TV in the world?

[mdh]

I think so.

[sky-knight]

Don't remind me...

Please allow me to apologize on behalf of the state of Arizona. For...

1.) Providing such a twit as a candidate
2.) Having said twit concede the election before even 60% of the votes were counted.

[nospoon]

I went into the local American Embassy (McDonalds) hear in Australia this morning and they wouldn't let me vote :)

[mdh]

You mistook his concession as being an early exit. There were still several hundred people there who needed to be reminded again of his war record, so he had to leave plenty of time available for that.

[sky-knight]

Well I didn't even bother to watch... the man is a quitter.. that is why he ran for president. He knows he can't win another senate election here in AZ. We voted in an angry gun toting POW that took no prisoners. What we got was a liberal pansy in grumpy old man clothes.

[Evil_Bert]

Actually, this Obama chap looks alright from this distance.

Say, can we borrow him from time to time? Our PM could use a few pointers. I promise we'll bring him right back and won't hurt him .... :)

[blueshoes]

No, he has way too many friends that are questionable. He sat in that church and listened to a black angry racist preacher for 20 years and looked the other way.( guilty by long term association and looking the other way) You can not run and win in Chicago politics and be clean. There is just too much corruption there. No YOU have just been "Charmed"

It is nice to see that we have come to a point that a African American can win. I am for that.

All our politicians are corrupt.

When they put PORK on the Fannie May crisis bail out, BOTH sides lost me. Both sides suck!! And no, I see through the charm , and the lack of charm of his wife's politics.

But, let's see what he can do, I was getting sick of Bush. Let's just hope he is not a wimp like Mr Fred Rogers to our throat cutting enemies.

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[nospoon]

I agree with Evil_Burt: our Aussie PM could do with some adult supervision.
I agree with blueshoes: EVERYONE is sick of Bush!
I agree with mdh: JM left us wanting more war stories (havng not much else to say)

Did anyone do any work today?

Not bad for an Untagle forum hey :)

[AutootuA]

It is going to be a hard road for anyone to get this country turned back around regardless of race or sex. I work with several "Real African Americans" and they wouldn't vote for Obama. I say "Real African Americans" because they are pure Americans. They as well as 5 generations of both sides of their families have loved, cried, and fought for this country.

I sort of have a problem with the requirements that guy had to meet to become "our" President. It was mighty easy for a foreigner with no deep roots in our country to come visit and then 47 years later his offspring is President. Something ain't right.

I do wish him all the best and hope he can be what the country needs.....

[sky-knight]

We've survived bad presidents before. I don't see Obama or Bush as much different. That is the irony of the entire thing... Obama wins on a platform of change... and his espoused drivel is nothing short of what Bush has done for 8 years.

My only real concern is economically speaking we can't afford tax increases of any kind right now. Let's hope the Democrats with their new found white house position are intelligent enough to understand this while they whine about increasing spending on social programs. Of course that also means they will more than likely cut defense again... and with our Soviet buddies on the move again, that isn't exactly a good idea either.

[dmorris]

We've survived bad presidents before. I don't see Obama or Bush as much different. That is the irony of the entire thing... Obama wins on a platform of change... and his espoused drivel is nothing short of what Bush has done for 8 years.


thats not fair - obama's rhetoric is much better than bush's. :lol

[Statikk]

Let's just hope he is not a wimp like Mr Fred Rogers to our throat cutting enemies.

Wait a minute now!! Attack any politician you like but know that Fred Rogers was a better man than any of them. He was also most definitely not a wimp. ;)

[nospoon]

Thoughts of one foreigner (from Down-Under)...

I understand Auotootua concerns - and imagine he's not alone with them. I guess I too would have reservations about a first generation Australian taking the reigns down here. Having said that, global popular opinion of the US has plummeted throughout these post 911 (and Bush) days - and has been seen as more of a hawk than a dove. My view is that Uncle Sam has always tried very hard to play well with the other children - but doesn't take kindly to being punched in the nose. Nothing wrong with that. But that basic mantra can be easily lost in the clouds of a troubled world. And it's hard for folks not to be nervous about, or even resistive to, a hawkish super-power.

In this light, it's perhaps not surprising that Obama's international popularity has been almost universal in the lead up to November 4... a US candidate with an unprecedented international perspective (notice I don't say experience).

National piggy banks are being broken open everywhere. And if there is an answer to this looming devastation it will come out of global cooperation - not tunnel visioned group thinking. It seems to me, as the leader of the free world, a young team-playing PR man will start with a clear advantage over a "Commander-in-Chief" mentality. The Middle East problems won't be fixed or broken over the next few months - no matter what choices are made. But the World's economy will be.

I think the freshness of a Democrat administration offers both the US and the World a longer and more productive honeymoon period. A moment of pause. For the immediate future at least, that seems far more pallettable than an aging head of state with relics of an encumbent administration. Let's hope better informed and smarter minds provail - both in retoric and deads.

Of course, it's easy for an Australian to be so dovish when no one has parked a 767 on the Sydney Harbour Bridge. I guess I might think somewhat differently then too.

[sky-knight]

There is really only one flaw in that picture...

There are a pile of evil SOB's in this country that simply won't tolerate a black president. I'm most certainly not one of them... but aligning their objectives with several other rather nasty organizations globally can't be a good thing.

If you think the US is a hawk now... imagine after her president is assassinated...

I suggest, we all start praying it never happens.

[mdh]

I guess you never read about Lincoln, McKinley or Kennedy?

[sky-knight]

None of them were killed by foreign nationals on the heels of the trade center.

[AutootuA]

There are a pile of evil SOB's in this country that simply won't tolerate a black president. I'm most certainly not one of them.

I'm with you on that one. I really could care less if he was orange, republican, or a democrat. I do still have issues with his families roots in this country, but he was elected and he will have my support.

It's also real easy for me to forget that what goes on in this country affects so much more. Sort of like not being able to see the forest for the trees. I know Bush wasn't the greatest and surly fell short of what we wanted but he was "our" President. It's real hard for the rest of the world to take him seriously when he doesn't have the full backing of all his countrymen. I really hate that it takes a tragedy like 9/11 to draw this country closer together. The further we get from that day the further we move back apart. People show no real pride in this country anymore. They want someone else to fix things instead of helping fix things themselves. The United States of America became this great nation by people working together for a common goal. Now they want to know, "What can I get out of it?"


Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You....

[White Wolf Mac]

I agree with AutootuA
you see I am a military brat. I should say was. When I was growing up, my dad all ways sad "It does not matter who is the President, you should all ways support him". I don't like family roots, or the any of the things about him. What you say about 9/11 and the fact that no one has any pride in there country is some what true. I think that we need to be like some other country's in the fact they have to serve some time in the military.

[Lee Sharp]

Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos... I mean Bob Barr. :D