Compaq Proliant DL360, hangs on "please wait" screen

[Mariem]

When I tried to install Untangle on a repurposed Compaq Proliant DL360 (1U server) for my company, the box stops on the first "please wait screen". It has 2 processors, 2 onboard nics, 1GB of ram and a built in SCSI RAID controler with 2 36GB drives configured as mirrored. The onboard video is a ATI Rage IIC and it appears the Untangle server doesn't have a driver or config for this video card? Since the box only has one slot, if I have to use this slot for a video card, I won't be able to add the third nic for a DMZ. So my question is, are there any work arounds for this issue without having to use up my only slot for another video card? Or, can a DMZ be assigned to a IP on the internal network?


Thanks,
M

[amac]

In the case of a DMZ host on the internal network, yest that is an option in standard router mode:
http://wiki.untangle.com/index.php/Router#About_DMZ
If you have multiple public IP's you can assign external alias addresses and do redirects from there.
Then depending on the server that you are putting on the dmz host. You could make a custom rack for the host. That way you can have it on it's own rack, with it's own firewall rules and traffic rules set for the "dmz", without having to sift through all of your regular rules and settings. Seperate and simple I guess.
And welcome to the forums!

[Mariem]

Thanks for advice. Glad to hear about the features, will be using them if I can get this thing installed. Apparently there is more depth and capabilities to Untango than I realized. I looked over the link you gave and in some other areas as well. The initial plan is to also utilize the Untango box for VPN access but I won't have had any experiance with Untango until I get this box up.

I hope someone can confirm whether or not if I need to use a differant video card. There were alot of Compaq servers out there that used the same video and it would mean none of them would work with Untango.


Thanks,
M

[Mariem]

...I opened up the Compaq box and noticed it DOES have 2 PCI slots and not one like origianlly thought. Any recomendations on a PCI video card to use?

Thanks,
M
Mareim Group Inc
Rochester NY

[oliverbross]

Hi Mariem,

I would suggest to try the first new or old PCI VGA card you can get hold of.

So far I have had no problems with any new/old cards, integrated or PCI, which I have thrown on the Untangle. Even cards with 8MB of memory worked fine for me.

If you are in the UK I wouldn't mind to send you one of mine, of course for nothing.

I hope that helps.

Oliver
www.bross.eu

[Mariem]

I will look to see what I can find laying around and give them a try. I guess Untangle is not that picky about the video card and maybe it is just the particular one used in these Compaq servers.

Thanks,

M
Mariem Group Inc.

[Mariem]

Thanks Oliver, I am in the US (New York). I Found a old PCI video card (Diamond Monster 3D w/16MB ram) and tried it, same issue. During the bootup from CD I hit the esc key to see the bootup sequence displayed. The system generates a series of error messages then stops after and says "No suitable X-server configuration available for your card". This is the same error as when trying to install with the server's onboard ATI Rage IIC video.

I don't have any other cards to try, so if some knows could tell me which cards worked for them I might beable to purchase the same type. If I have purchase one and since this is a server, even a low cost one that is able to work with Untangle is more than adequate for this box.

Thanks,
M
Mariem Group Inc.

[mdh]

Mariem,

Check to see if you can change any video settings in your BIOS.

[Mariem]

The only video settings are to enable or disable the onboard video through the Compaq Smart Start server tools.

Sorry for not responding sooner, I have been busy with other task. I did however re-load Windows Server 2003 on it and it ran without any issues with either video card. Both video cards are older designs and the add-in board is kind of unusal as well. I think Untangle will work when I can get a more recent and generic type card. At the moment, it looks like we will not be able to try Untangle until then.

Thanks,

M

[mdh]

Your problem is likely the SCSI disk configuration. I don't think I've read of a single success with SCSI yet.

[mkrzyzan]

I happened to get this working fine with a generation one (G1) Compaq DL360 server with an Integrated SmartArray RAID Controller.

The bootable self-installer disc image does indeed fail on this hardware platform because the workaround discussed earlier (cciss drivers) does not apply here.

This controller happens to use the cpqarray driver and for whatever reason will NOT acknowledge the bootable partition of /dev/ida/c0d0p1 even when manually entered as a mount point at the untangle grub boot loader.

The solution is to load Debian Linux FIRST on the G1...
Available here: "http://debian.osuosl.org/debian-cdimage/current/i386/iso-cd"

Then, use the independent installation script detailed below.
Available here: "http://wiki.untangle.com/index.php/Quick_Install_Guide_for_Untangle_for_Ubuntu#Instal ling_Untangle_for_Ubuntu_.28...and_Debian.21.29"


Appears to work fine for me anyway,

Questions, comments, ideas?

Matthew.

[Lee Sharp]

A lot of raid controllers have trouble with autodetection. Going Debian or Ubuntu first avoids most of that. It is slightly harder, but will make hardware function that would otherwise choke on install.

[mkrzyzan]

A lot of raid controllers have trouble with autodetection. Going Debian or Ubuntu first avoids most of that. It is slightly harder, but will make hardware function that would otherwise choke on install.

Very true Lee, but considering UT's core environment is Java-based (JVM I believe, correct?) the Linux environment it's built on top of should be able to utilize alternate drivers fed to it.

While I simply could go the route of pulling the mirrored discs and place them into another system to access the ext3 file system from there, I am hoping an easier option exists. Do you happen to know if there's an easy way get access to the ext3 file system when the native JVM crashes on HP/Compaq, or other gear for that matter?

Also, do you by chance know the specs of the Linux kernel that UTs native environment is built upon?

Thank You,

Matthew.

[Lee Sharp]

Well, in my case I like installing on top of an existing Ubuntu installation as it gives me an entire system to work with. As to the kernel, I think it is mainly queuing changes.