UT Server Hardware Selection

TheKid7 · 11-26-2009, 10:11 AM

I am still trying to decide on hardware for an UT Server (Home Network, 4 PC's, One PC Heavy (Almost Continuous) Video Streaming, One PC Web Surfing + Intermittent Large File Download, Other Two PC's Web Surfing):

1. Dual Core Atom Foxconn Barebones (Currently on Sale at NewEgg) + 2 GB Memory + Used Intel Pro Dual Port NIC + Hard Drive + USB2.0 DVD-RW:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856119013

2. Foxconn Mini-ITX Desktop Case + Intel Mini-ITX Motherboard + 2 GB Memory + Pentium Dual Core or Core 2 Duo CPU + Used Intel Pro Dual Port NIC + Hard Drive + USB2.0 DVD-RW:

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811153099

Intel Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813121381

3. ASUS Barebones Server + 2 GB Memory + Pentium Dual Core or Core 2 Duo CPU + Hard Drive + USB2.0 DVD-RW:

ASUS Barebone Server:

http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=XWXN9y7E3GmAcu2B

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816110024

I know that Option 3 is probably overkill, but it sure would fit nice on my PC desk (with rubber feet added) under my LCD Monitor (space saving).

Option 2 has a 150 Watt Power Supply. Many Power Supply Calculators say that this may be too small. However, Option 3 has a 180 Watt Power Supply and the ASUS product description for Option 3 says that Full Load is 89 Watts. Is a 150 Watt Power Supply big enough to handle a Pentium Dual Core or a Core 2 Duo?

Does anyone have any preferences or opinions on each of the above options?

Thanks in Advance.

robertsig · 11-26-2009, 09:14 PM

I was looking for a rackmount server just for UT and that ASUS looks perfect. Anyone know if the Marvell controllers are supported? And liked?

dmccabe · 11-27-2009, 01:51 AM

Depending on how much your will to spend, the Dell R200 server is now only £409 (+VAT)

This server is rock solid and completely compatible with UT. I have used with a network of up to 700 users with no signs of strain.

TheKid7 · 11-27-2009, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertsig

I was looking for a rackmount server just for UT and that ASUS looks perfect. Anyone know if the Marvell controllers are supported? And liked?

A purchaser of this ASUS Server on NewEgg stated that it works fine with Untangle 5.1. See the Review by "Kermee":

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816110024

lohearn · 11-27-2009, 06:04 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816101262

We use these for companies with 50 PCs and they run great.

robertsig · 11-27-2009, 06:15 AM

I'd rather get an Atom for the low power.... Any idea of how much power they use? (Do you have a Kill-a-watt?). What kind of CPU usage or throughput are you getting with most of the filtering turned on?

TheKid7 · 11-27-2009, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertsig

I'd rather get an Atom for the low power.... Any idea of how much power they use? (Do you have a Kill-a-watt?). What kind of CPU usage or throughput are you getting with most of the filtering turned on?

In a Review in the following link someone says that it uses 40 Watts.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816101262

TheKid7 · 11-27-2009, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lohearn

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816101262

We use these for companies with 50 PCs and they run great.

I like its small size.

Do you think that its Dual Core Atom will handle my four (4) PC Home Network? Worst Case: Let's say that I do streaming video on two of the PC's and large file downloads (DVD ISO Images) on the other two PC's, all at the same time. Will I see any interruptions/pauses of the streaming videos or any significant slowdown in the DVD ISO download rates?

Also, I plan to purchase the Home Package: Kaspersky Antivirus + eSafe Web Filtering

Will the Supermicro Dual Core Atom be able to handle the above "Worst Case" with (installed and operating) Kaspersky + eSafe + All Other Free Packages - Clam AV - Free Web Filtering?

Thanks in Advance.

robertsig · 11-27-2009, 07:53 AM

Post #4....

robertsig · 11-27-2009, 08:03 AM

Wow, I'm a fickle person. After reading some other posts in this forum about the Atom performance and other review sites, I've decided against it. Apparently a Celeron 440 uses just as much power (35W TDP) but performs better. And since I want a 1U server for a rack at home, the device that fits the bill is this one.

The only place where the Atom 330 performs better is in certain benchmarks where both cores can be used. In single core tasks, get the Celeron.

11-26-2009, 10:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
TheKid7 Untangler Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 32	UT Server Hardware Selection I am still trying to decide on hardware for an UT Server (Home Network, 4 PC's, One PC Heavy (Almost Continuous) Video Streaming, One PC Web Surfing + Intermittent Large File Download, Other Two PC's Web Surfing): 1. Dual Core Atom Foxconn Barebones (Currently on Sale at NewEgg) + 2 GB Memory + Used Intel Pro Dual Port NIC + Hard Drive + USB2.0 DVD-RW: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856119013 2. Foxconn Mini-ITX Desktop Case + Intel Mini-ITX Motherboard + 2 GB Memory + Pentium Dual Core or Core 2 Duo CPU + Used Intel Pro Dual Port NIC + Hard Drive + USB2.0 DVD-RW: Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811153099 Intel Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813121381 3. ASUS Barebones Server + 2 GB Memory + Pentium Dual Core or Core 2 Duo CPU + Hard Drive + USB2.0 DVD-RW: ASUS Barebone Server: http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=XWXN9y7E3GmAcu2B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816110024 I know that Option 3 is probably overkill, but it sure would fit nice on my PC desk (with rubber feet added) under my LCD Monitor (space saving). Option 2 has a 150 Watt Power Supply. Many Power Supply Calculators say that this may be too small. However, Option 3 has a 180 Watt Power Supply and the ASUS product description for Option 3 says that Full Load is 89 Watts. Is a 150 Watt Power Supply big enough to handle a Pentium Dual Core or a Core 2 Duo? Does anyone have any preferences or opinions on each of the above options? Thanks in Advance. Last edited by TheKid7; 11-26-2009 at 10:18 AM..

11-26-2009, 09:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
robertsig Untangler Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 84	I was looking for a rackmount server just for UT and that ASUS looks perfect. Anyone know if the Marvell controllers are supported? And liked?

11-27-2009, 01:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
dmccabe Untangler Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 57	Depending on how much your will to spend, the Dell R200 server is now only £409 (+VAT) This server is rock solid and completely compatible with UT. I have used with a network of up to 700 users with no signs of strain.

11-27-2009, 06:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
lohearn Master Untangler Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Massachusetts USA Posts: 212	http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816101262 We use these for companies with 50 PCs and they run great.

11-27-2009, 06:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
robertsig Untangler Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 84	I'd rather get an Atom for the low power.... Any idea of how much power they use? (Do you have a Kill-a-watt?). What kind of CPU usage or throughput are you getting with most of the filtering turned on?

11-27-2009, 07:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
robertsig Untangler Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 84	Post #4....

11-27-2009, 08:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
robertsig Untangler Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 84	Wow, I'm a fickle person. After reading some other posts in this forum about the Atom performance and other review sites, I've decided against it. Apparently a Celeron 440 uses just as much power (35W TDP) but performs better. And since I want a 1U server for a rack at home, the device that fits the bill is this one. The only place where the Atom 330 performs better is in certain benchmarks where both cores can be used. In single core tasks, get the Celeron.