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    Yeah but ... QoS (and Queue discipline) is for the WAN.
    A VPN isn't that.
    A VPN is a completely different animal, dependent on more players.
    I just dunno.

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    I am not sure either but I would bet Mr. Taht does. That is the point.
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    It's just that if bufferbloat has a good score to a test server, that is what David was shooting for.
    Adding a VPN tunnel doesn't impact the buffers on the way any differently.
    If connecting a VPN makes things really bad, it likely isn't the fault of bloated buffers.

    But, to make it perfectly clear:
    I WANT CAKE!!!
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    Maybe I have been looking at sd-wan too much. A vpn is treated as a wan there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donhwyo View Post
    Maybe I have been looking at sd-wan too much. A vpn is treated as a wan there.

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    Just to be clear here (in case I wasn't sufficiently before): My GF's Mac running Cisco Anywhere VPN ist just another client on the network connecting to her employer's server. So wouldn't this just be regular WAN traffic for Untangle? If not, what makes it special?

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    It is - partly. And in the case of bufferbloat, yes. but regular WAN traffic consist of many protocols.
    TCP/IP has more guarantees.
    UDP isn't handled the same way.
    + There are others.

    I don't know what Cisco is using at all. Also, remember it is a tunnel handled by the 'regular WAN traffic'

    The Internet is under a bit of stress at some unusual points, "In These Uncertain Times"™

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    Quote Originally Posted by donhwyo View Post
    Maybe I have been looking at sd-wan too much. A vpn is treated as a wan there.
    Yes, and I very much like the way Untangle did that.
    However, it is a logical interface, riding over the physical Wide Area Network

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    Hey Dmor!

    I read your post regarding working with c3000 series device. I need your help. Can you help me out?

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    I receive today email from Untangle about 15.1
    Can explain in more detail this concept in the mail:
    • This release does not have an OpenVPN client for Microsoft Windows - Microsoft Windows and Mac OS have an OpenVPN client, which can be used with NG Firewall 15.1.

    Due covid, we have many restriction to move to client locations, then any upgrate from 14.x is in stanby for now, this release have and End off life or end off support?

    Thanks in advance


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    Quote Originally Posted by dwasserman View Post
    • This release does not have an OpenVPN client for Microsoft Windows - Microsoft Windows and Mac OS have an OpenVPN client, which can be used with NG Firewall 15.1.
    I'm not sure why this information has caused so much confusion. There is no change to the way OpenVPN works. We are simply not wrapping the config file with the Windows client installer. A config is still generated for each client. The client software for OpenVPN just needs to be download directly from OpenVPN website so you have the latest client app. Client app upgrade is not necessary upon the upgrade to 15.1 as the same OpenVPN server settings are retained.

    Quote Originally Posted by dwasserman View Post
    Due covid, we have many restriction to move to client locations, then any upgrate from 14.x is in stanby for now, this release have and End off life or end off support?
    Since 15.0 is already out, 14.2 will end support upon the completion of the 15.1 rollout.
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