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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim.Alles View Post
    It turns out the large content size is prioritized to 'Medium', which has a 50% download limit.
    This likely affecting the O.P.s observation, as well.
    Jim,

    This is a cool find. The strange thing though is that not all installation have those QoS limits by default.

    Below are the defaults for a fresh Untangle 15.1 installation (designated as "Home", in case that matters): Untangle 15.1 Default QoS Priorities.jpg

    With those default even medium priority traffic can exhaust the bandwidth. But perhaps those defaults have changed recently and you are working off an older installation?

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    As it turns out, the 50% limit is not likely to be a default

    In general, I have streaming media go to medium Priority.
    This is what I have done:

    QoS Pri.png

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    Thanks for all the great info Jim (and others) - apologies for going radio silent, but it's been a heckuva week with both work and getting the kitchen back together after not having one since early April (burst pipe).

    Teenagers are awake and streaming; I'll use today to catch up on reviewing the wiki and getting the basic bandwidth control setup done, then I'll do testing in the AM before they wake up.

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    Phew, feels like this week has been 10 Mondays long. Finally got some time in for testing this morning. I'll try and do some more tests tomorrow where I only disable one thing at a time instead of ramping up to (almost) fully disabling the app suite.

    Test (1), Time: 7:15 am, PDT
    Conditions: Nothing disabled on Untangle, minimal streaming, Apps: Web Filter, Virus Blocker, Bandwidth Control, Application Control, Firewall, Ad Blocker, Intrusion Prevention, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Interface usage: 372 Kb External, 326 Kb Internal (from 7:00 - 7:14 am)
    Hosts: 21 active
    Total session snapshot: 182 (162 scanned, 20 bypassed)

    Results (167.5 Mb/s down, 25.9 Mb/s up):


    *****

    Test (2), Time: 7:19 am, PDT
    Conditions: Applied bypass rule (first rule processed) on my desktop through Network Config, minimal streaming, Apps: Web Filter, Virus Blocker, Bandwidth Control, Application Control, Firewall, Ad Blocker, Intrusion Prevention, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Interface usage: not logged, as test packets would skew results
    Hosts: 23 active
    Total session snapshot: 135 (117 scanned, 18 bypassed)

    Results (275.3 Mb/s down, 33.9 Mb/s up):


    *****

    Test (3), Time: 7:25 am, PDT
    Conditions: Bypass rule applied and disabled Intrusion Prevention app, minimal streaming, Apps: Web Filter, Virus Blocker, Bandwidth Control, Application Control, Firewall, Ad Blocker, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Hosts: 23 active
    Total session snapshot: 114 (70 scanned, 44 bypassed)

    Results (272.2 Mb/s down, 34.6 Mb/s up):


    *****

    Test (4), Time: 7:30 am, PDT
    Conditions: Bypass rule applied, disabled Intrusion Prevention and Bandwidth Control apps, minimal streaming, Apps: Web Filter, Virus Blocker, Application Control, Firewall, Ad Blocker, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Hosts: 25 active
    Total session snapshot: 144 (81 scanned, 63 bypassed)

    Results (215.4 Mb/s down, 36 Mb/s up):


    *****

    Test (5), Time: 7:33 am, PDT
    Conditions: Bypass rule applied, disabled Intrusion Prevention and Bandwidth Control apps, minimal streaming, Apps: Web Filter, Virus Blocker, Application Control, Firewall, Ad Blocker, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Hosts: 25 active
    Total session snapshot: 144 (81 scanned, 63 bypassed)

    Results (215.4 Mb/s down, 36 Mb/s up):


    *****

    Test (6), Time: 7:37 am, PDT
    Conditions: Bypass rule applied, disabled Intrusion Prevention and Bandwidth Control apps, disabled QoS, minimal streaming, Apps: Web Filter, Virus Blocker, Application Control, Firewall, Ad Blocker, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Hosts: 27 active
    Total session snapshot: 134 (69 scanned, 65 bypassed)

    Results (547 Mb/s down, 41.8 Mb/s up):


    (1 of 2, Continued in next post, ran into image limits)

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    2 of 2:

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    Test (7), Time: 7:40 am, PDT
    Conditions: Bypass rule applied, disabled Intrusion Prevention, Bandwidth Control, and Application Control apps, disabled QoS, minimal streaming, Apps: Web Filter, Virus Blocker, Firewall, Ad Blocker, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector
    Note: Had to do test twice after it dropped during first iteration

    Hosts: 27 active
    Total session snapshot: 132 (71 scanned, 61 bypassed)

    Results (458.6 Mb/s down, 42.2 Mb/s up):
    (Broken image, results at: ) http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/65135533

    *****

    Test (8), Time: 7:47 am, PDT
    Conditions: Bypass rule applied, disabled Intrusion Prevention, Bandwidth Control, Application Control, and Web Filter apps, disabled QoS, minimal streaming, Apps: Virus Blocker, Firewall, Ad Blocker, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Hosts: 27 active
    Total session snapshot: 127 (80 scanned, 47 bypassed)

    Results (624 Mb/s down, 40.8 Mb/s up):
    (Broken image, results at: ) http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/65135570

    *****

    Test (9), Time: 7:50 am, PDT
    Conditions: Bypass rule applied, disabled Intrusion Prevention, Bandwidth Control, Application Control, Ad Blocker, and Web Filter apps, disabled QoS, minimal streaming, Apps: Virus Blocker, Firewall, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Hosts: 27 active
    Total session snapshot: 135 (79 scanned, 56 bypassed)

    Results (562 Mb/s down, 42.4 Mb/s up):


    *****

    Test (10), Time: 7:54 am, PDT
    Conditions: Bypass rule applied, disabled Intrusion Prevention, Bandwidth Control, Application Control, Ad Blocker, Virus Blocker, and Web Filter apps, disabled QoS, minimal streaming, Apps: Firewall, Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Hosts: 27 active
    Total session snapshot: 165 (109 scanned, 56 bypassed)

    Results (638 Mb/s down, 41.5 Mb/s up):


    *****

    Test (11), Time: 7:57 am, PDT
    Conditions: Bypass rule applied, disabled Firewall, Intrusion Prevention, Bandwidth Control, Application Control, Ad Blocker, Virus Blocker, and Web Filter apps, disabled QoS, minimal streaming, Apps: Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Hosts: 27 active
    Total session snapshot: 133 (80 scanned, 53 bypassed)

    Results (844 Mb/s down, 42.1 Mb/s up):
    (Broken image, results at: ) http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/65135706

    *****

    Test (12), Time: 7:57 am, PDT
    Conditions: Set DSLReport Speed Test to Gigabit instead of Cable, Bypass rule applied, disabled Firewall, Intrusion Prevention, Bandwidth Control, Application Control, Ad Blocker, Virus Blocker, and Web Filter apps, disabled QoS, minimal streaming, Apps: Reports, Config Backup, Directory Connector

    Hosts: 27 active
    Total session snapshot: 133 (80 scanned, 53 bypassed)

    Results (848 Mb/s down, 41.5 Mb/s up):


    Hopefully that provides a decent snapshot, though it's of a rather small sample size. I'll try and find another good off-peak time when the teenagers are not only still asleep, but the rest of the neighborhood is as well.

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    So what is your impression of that data?

    I would have to structure it into a table/matrix to make sense of it, but it does look like there is a clear pattern.

    You might be able to remove some of the variables that you don't control by converting into percentages of the full speed test at a given time.

    (I went down the rabbit hole of QoS because test results originally appeared to be exactly 50% of advertised.)

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