JSON Editor

[sky-knight]

JSON is a very generic standard that is not much more than a loose set of rules to define a data construct. The construct specifically changes based on the implementation details required for the software that needs it.

So the plain English version, UT is updating modules, which means they change the information the module stores, and how it's working internally from time to time. These changes will bring necessary changes to the JSON output of the module.

So JSON from an old version "might" work on a new version if no changes were made. But, it's safer to assume changes have been made.

[dmorris]

In the case of 9.1, if you load your 9.0 firewall rules into a 9.1 firewall app, it will stop passing all traffic.

[jcoffin]

For non-Unix platforms, I use UltraEdit. It will color code and format JSON.

[dwasserman]

In the case of 9.1, if you load your 9.0 firewall rules into a 9.1 firewall app, it will stop passing all traffic.

Please develop this concept better, the lite boxes (without suscription and support) are under risk to loose the rules if upgrated?

[sky-knight]

No, if you export firewall rules from 9.0.2 into a JSON export file, and attempt to restore them to a 9.1 install you're break the box.

They will upgrade just fine if the UT goes through an upgrade.

[dwasserman]

Thanks Rob, one less problem to consider in the near next massive upgrade (when the untangle boys stop to build versions and present in society the final cut)

[sky-knight]

Well if you're supporting a pile of free boxes, you'll have to learn how to deal with apt. I wrote a tome of a post around here somewhere on how I managed to get an Untangle 7.2 install all the way to 9.0.2... successfully.

It can be done, as long as the major milestone upgrades are performed in an appropriate order, and the repositories are still there. Untangle officially only supports "current" so technically this process isn't supported. I really wish it was "supported" but I don't think UT has the support resources to pull that off right now.

[dwasserman]

No pile, only 2 free in production, but you understand I want to avoid the headache

[sky-knight]

Then disable automatic upgrades, wait for the forum fire on the new release to die down... take a hard look at the patches needed. Then, image the unit before you push the button, pull a UT backup while you're at it just in case. And push the big green button knowing you can fix it if it dies.

Untangle Lite means doing things yourself. I do all this stuff even on production boxes because downtime in those environments is BAD. Also, I tend to push the upgrade button when the UT guys are all sound asleep!