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    Default determine upgrade version?

    I realize this is a 'once in a blue moon' situation, but can I tell what upgrade version my box is going to get?

    My UT lite box is at Build: 10.2.0~svn20140519r37786release10.2-1squeeze

    I do not upgrade automatically. I would like to upgrade, but don't want to go to the kernel with v11, as this is an old dell box.

    any hints?

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    You'll upgrade to v11 when it comes available.

    And the new kernel shouldn't disable an already working box, the hardware base is wider, not thinner.

    Also, if the box is upgraded from v10 to v11, you should still have the old kernel in grub to be chosen manually. But again, you shouldn't need it.
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    On upgrade, the old kernel is kept until the next reboot. If you have console access you can have the old kernel selected by default. I'm confident the new kernel will work with the dell as their motherboards are fairly generic.
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    Ok, thanks for the reassurance and hand-holding.
    The box did upgrade to Build: 10.2.1~svn20140618r37923release10.2-1squeeze
    (I had ignored the admin alert for some time).
    The installer syslog has a complaint, that showed up on the console again during this update. It is probably related to not having NIC status indicators:

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    May  3 16:20:55 in-target: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-untangle-686
    May  3 16:20:55 in-target: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/e100/d102e_ucode.bin for module e100
    May  3 16:20:55 in-target: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/e100/d101s_ucode.bin for module e100
    May  3 16:20:55 in-target: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/e100/d101m_ucode.bin for module e100
    This looks like
    http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/03/14...h-the-problem/

    can I just do this:
    you probably need to enable the “non-free” repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list (you can also enable it within synaptic). And you also want to run “sudo apt-file update” to have the latest information.
    Now you can install the right package, in the example above it was firmware-linux-nonfree.
    I see that will be at my own risk. gotta learn more about this.

    unless it will be magically fixed in v11?

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    V11 is based on Debian wheezy which has a wider range of drivers.
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    And this is why I say... go Intel or go home...

    If the firmware is present in v10 on upgrade it won't go away. But there are no guarantees it will be present in v11. Yes, if there is a debian package you can easily enable the repo and install the missing driver package. However, you'll be doing this manually for each kernel change. This doesn't happen often, but honestly I'd just toss in a $30 card with Intel's name on it, because it's got support.
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    Yeah, but...

    these are
    Used (2) Intel-based Compaq server pulls
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    Those are not server class NICs...

    I'd have to get into the box and see what's going on. The e100 driver hasn't been updated in ages, likely what you're seeing is a reduction in driver availability for old NICs. A DOCSIS 3.0 connection will overrun a 10/100. I haven't installed a system with less than a gigabit nic in almost a decade. That being said, I know the e100 module is still there, so I would expect the NICs to work.
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    This is more about licensing, but with reference to the date of the article, we are slightly behind the curve.

    March 14, 2011 by Raphaël Hertzog
    You know it already, since Debian 6.0 non-free firmware are no longer provided by a standard Debian installation. This will cause some troubles to users who need them. I’m thus going to do a small overview on the topic and teach you what you need to know to deal with the problem.
    The NIC's do work, it is just the status LED feature. And the box with this issue is on a farm with 5 MBS DSL.

    My modem at home is obsolete, so when it gets upgraded to DOCSIS 3.0, I will replace the NIC's as well - thanks for that, didn't think of broadcasts, etc. on that neighborhood subnet.
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    Well, here's the package: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/f...-linux-nonfree

    It includes: * Intel 82559 D101M microcode (e100/d101m_ucode.bin)
    * Intel 82559 D101S microcode (e100/d101s_ucode.bin)

    So, if you need this package to get the firmware in question here's what you'd do on Untangle v11, this is only made possible because you have Internet access!

    ssh in (or use terminal)

    Code:
    echo "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debain/ wheezy main non-free" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nonfree.list
    apt-get update
    apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree
    rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nonfree.list
    apt-get update
    or you can download the .deb file here: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool...eezy.1_all.deb

    Put it on a thumb drive, mount the thumb drive on Untangle, and do dpkg -i firmware-linux-nonfree_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb

    But I don't like installing packages manually if I can avoid it.
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