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    Default What's different in 5.4?

    Is there a change log available? Just curious. The VM sounds great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    Is there a change log available? Just curious. The VM sounds great.
    thanks for reminder. give me just a minute.

    basically 5.4 is 5.3 bugfixes plus the re-routing technology.

    traditional enhancements have been going into the 6.0 branch.
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    Don't forget the performance penalty for using that layer 2 magic. It funnels all lan traffic through the UT as well, which limits your switch to the speed of 1 port.

    This feature freaking rocks as a demo, but I wouldn't use it for a permanent installation.
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    Changelog is up:
    http://wiki.untangle.com/index.php/5.4_Changelog

    Quote Originally Posted by sky-knight View Post
    Don't forget the performance penalty for using that layer 2 magic. It funnels all lan traffic through the UT as well, which limits your switch to the speed of 1 port.

    This feature freaking rocks as a demo, but I wouldn't use it for a permanent installation.
    It doesn't filter intranetwork traffic, and any switch delay is negligible anyway.

    a untangle in a vm in router mode and an untangle in a vm in re-router mode aren't going to be noticeably different on the test.
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    Is it available as just the VMware image file? or is it best to run the install file.
    Is it ok to run the setup file if you already have the VMware player install.
    That is does the setup detect this and not try to install another version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumblebee View Post
    Is it available as just the VMware image file? or is it best to run the install file.
    Is it ok to run the setup file if you already have the VMware player install.
    That is does the setup detect this and not try to install another version.
    It is currently necessary to run the exe file because it does more than just boot an image. (It sets your config and installs the systray application)

    It safely installs vmware player on top of another player, but I'm not sure what happens if you have vmware workstation (or other) installed. Anyone else know?
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    Aww and here I wanted to stuff it into my new ESXi server... oh I'm so drooling on this thing...

    And dmorris I really don't know how you can possibly tell me the darn unit has taken ownership of every mac address on the lan to force all traffic to come to it so it can play router.. and some how magically you've managed to ignore lan packets?

    Unless my previous education is incorrect and all the unit does is take ownership of the IP of the gateway... now that is a different thing altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sky-knight View Post
    Unless my previous education is incorrect and all the unit does is take ownership of the IP of the gateway... now that is a different thing altogether.
    Thats exactly what it does.

    If you have 2 hosts A, B and a gateway G.
    Untangle will filter A->G and G->A and B->G and G->B but not A->B or B->A

    So just like a normal dedicated server, it sees inbound and outbound traffic only but not intranetwork traffic. (Performance issues aside, filtering intranetwork traffic would be problematic anyway)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmorris View Post
    It safely installs vmware player on top of another player, but I'm not sure what happens if you have vmware workstation (or other) installed. Anyone else know?
    The vmware player installer is smart, so if you already have a vmware product installed, it just doesn't do anything. The system tray icon and service use whatever program is associated with a .vmx file. So as long as the file associations are right, that is double clicking on a VMware image runs it, then everything should work.
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    anyone have feedback? success / no success?
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