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    Untangler yonnie's Avatar
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    That's a thought! Verizon has a tower on the hill right above the valley, but they won't move the arrays so half the homes can't use their cell phones. With the 5gb cap and the $60/mo bill with some reporting $1k bills (overages) Verizon evdo is not a solution. I'm using Sprint which is another tower elsewhere and they too have the cap now.

    I'd like to get more info on actual hardware and software that could be employed in deploying a functional large network. This information would be very useful for others who may be reading this too!

    How about for instance, an example of what a medium-sized hotel with a thousand rooms would deploy? They usually have an RJ45 jack in every room, sometimes 2 jacks.

    And if we can't afford state-of-the-art stuff, then we'll go for used stuff. Maybe if we buy used stuff from India we can do it cheaper. After all thanks to the politicians the US is now a third world country, maybe we can get assistance from the UN?

    Well, I wouldn't go as far as saying I hate Verizon. I just think they go out of their way to make it difficult for customers to work with them and they spend $0 on service/support training, and just like MCI and AT&T, they want to keep changing the plans to keep us confused so they can literally nickel/dime us to death. To get the truck out here to fix the phone line, I had to drive over to their building and pound on the door because their service support line kept taking me to someone who didn't speak English and couldn't figure out where my town was. That was 8 years ago, but recent bouts with service indicate there hasn't been much of an improvement.

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    I understand your pain but I've lived in an area with a co-op inet service.. it sucked giant balls worse than the dialup.

    As far as the raw connectivity goes it really is rather simple. There are piles of DSL/Cable technologies out there but all of this requires a massive investment in infrastructure just to get connected. Then you have to get the routers that can handle the traffic. The people to support it, and a really big Internet feed...

    Perhaps there is a Cable company in your region you could subsidize instead? Start looking around outside of town. There has to be at least one Internet service provider that is already thinking about moving in and serving all those waiting customers. Just figure out who and give them a nudge.
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    On the list of todo's, thanks. Also checking with the local gov. maybe tie in with what they have and help provide what they may need. Maybe we can get surplus equipment?

    I'll keep checking back for more tips!

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    Untangler yonnie's Avatar
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    Hey thanks, this looks to be a pretty good resource!

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    Where are you located ? Depending on terrain and the cost of the internet feed, you can service wirelessly compartively inexpensive with some planning.

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    I'm near the Oregon coast, lots of hills, small valleys, forest. Big problem here is not just hills but the forest between homes. Second problem is getting a fat pipe installed, T1 is going to cost $1.2k/month and $1k just to install. Friend of mine just got a 14Mb connection (20 miles away in town) for $70/month.
    Since my last post I found a book (link on cernio) about wireless networking in the developing world. I find it difficult to believe how backwards the US is. Everybody but the US has internet access. Book is very informative and has details on how to make the components DIY! Ever hear of a Cantenna? I'm only a quarter of the way through it (keep falling asleep..technical stuff). It covers wifi stuff but not wimax. I'd like to find open-source material on build-it yourself wimax gear but using unlicensed (open) spectrum possibly 5ghz. That way if and when the big-boys put up a wimax system they won't tread all over my equipment. But first, I need to get the wifi network going.

    I saw an article on connecting more than one DSL connection to a network, the article spoke as if everyone knows how to do that. Any chance you can help me with that too?

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    I do WiFi in hotels. It ain't easy. Anyway, there are several providers of broadband, but getting clued in sales people is a challenge. If you want I can give you some help to start. I would need a lot more information, however, so PM me an e-mail address or phone number. Depending on the environment, you might be able to get in at or under 6 figures... I stress "might" heavily.

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