Rob Sandling, BS:SWE, MCP
NexgenAppliances.com
Phone: 866-794-8879 x201
Email: support@nexgenappliances.com
Who thought that offering less than before for the same price and charging three times more for some additional features I didn't ask was a good idea? Limiting devices? This is just terrible decision making, guess I'll go Pfsense
Rob Sandling, BS:SWE, MCP
NexgenAppliances.com
Phone: 866-794-8879 x201
Email: support@nexgenappliances.com
I pulled the trigger on the new licence since you get a refund on the balance of your licence. I dont want to pay any more annually for a home based subscription than $150. I felt for the price the features were worthwhile. Alternatively I'd have to pay $450 every two years for another hardware appliance (such as Netgear, Draytek etc) at home and it goes in the bin when it gets replaced.
Yes, but the 'nother Wi-Fi network can be an additional SSID on the same Access Point (AP). Some APs can do that AND bind that SSID to a VLAN tag. The additional interfaces on NGFW can then be virtual. [Add Tagged VLAN Interface]
It would be best to start your own thread, if you have questions.
If you think I got Grumpy
While I can respect any opinion of the dealers out there and they are valued and valuable, I would hope that they are all looking at this from the lens of a home user, who may not have the ability, technical know-how, finances to get the advanced networking gear etc. when sorta defending untangle's stance here.
I understand that untangle users may be more technically inclined but that isn't always a true statement and not everyone has the ability to go out an purchase managed layer 2 switches or multiple nat routers or additional advanced access points to provide some of the advanced functionality that is being described here in this thread to bypass devices - especially typically Wi-Fi connected ones that may not support some of those features anyway. While nice that we can bypass things, it should not be a requirement for a home user to do that to stay in license compliance.
In a home network it should be assumed that it is mostly flat and that only 1 private address range is going to be used (0-255).
A far more fair licensing model would be to allow at least 254 devices to allow for this basic home use case scenario.
Last edited by Cferra; 11-19-2020 at 11:29 PM.
The NGFW product logic was historically straightforward: take the free product—the platform, as it’s been called—and charge for added value. That tidy product logic prevailed until now. The platform is no longer ubiquitous. My most fundamental assumption about NGFW as a product is out the door, and abandoning the historic product logic is unproductively disruptive, in my mind.
We’re being told this was a customer-driven reset. That’s the "who." But like you, I didn’t ask for any of this and since my most fundamental assumption about product logic at Untangle is no longer valid, I’ve begun the reset at my end, too.